DISCUSSION: Primetime 7-31-17 (Spoilers)

[Xion Zeros]

Right off the bat, I have to say I was let down at the sheer number of people who were unable to roleplay for this event, but I understand what happened in a lot of your situations. Some people were sick and dealing with illnesses, others got swamped with work IRL, and are possibly in the middle of moving or getting their Internet accessibility situations worked out. I get it, I totally understand, folks. It just seemed like a bad week all round for roleplayers in general it seemed. TBH I wanted to get this show up ASAP as I have relatives visiting this week and I knew my free time was going to be out of the window.

Those of you who had your matches and segments cut from this show, don't fret, I'm going to reschedule them for the next episode of Primetime or if you want to go ahead and post them on ReAction for this show, that's fine too. It just seemed like this wasn't a good week for the bulk of you guys.

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Quick Results


- Rex Terrell and Casey Cortez def. Justin Lockhart and Amanda Cortez (w/ Rose Cortez) without the match officially starting

I don't take credit for this one as this was entirely ❤Rose❤ 's idea to have Amanda and Justin fall to the overwhelming forces of nature known as Rex and Casey. I hope Patrick isn't bothered with this turn of events since he wasn't able to RP for the show since he was out of town for work according to ❤Knightmare INC . I personally liked this show of force for Ry Drake's "bodyguards/bouncers" as it gives us another potential tag team for the upcoming Stardom Tag Classic and more teams in general in that division, if ❤Rose❤ and BulletxToxThexHeart want to go in that direction.



- Nikki Bella def. Alicia Fox in the First Match in Best of Series

Credit goes to ❤Knightmare INC completely here. I merely copy and pasted what she sent me for this one. Last Man Standing next, eh? You trying to kill your ladies off, Mel?

BTW while I have you here I want to bring up this topic to the floor again. If I were to eliminate real wrestlers from the table, how would you two cope? Would you use these same characters and just make Original Characters based off of them or just focus on your existing originals? Just was wondering as I'm starting to consider that option again, but I want to be considerate to where you and Samuel feel in that situation since you two are our longest tenured roster members who have been sticking with RL wrestlers.



- Ursula Areano, Laura Jackson, and Crystal Millar def. Jennifer Dunn, Susie Price, and GZWA Vixen Champion Blake Harper.

I know Athena is going to chime in the comments on what she wanted to address about her situation as of late, so I'll leave that to her, but with sarahrichardson being MIA on this card too, it seemed to level the playing field a bit. I had a bit of fun writing this match, given all of the personalities involved even though I'm honestly struggling to get into the zone on how a lot of your individual movesets mesh against each other, but that much I'll get the hang of in due time.

I wanted to make sure to keep the @jennifer and Laura Jackson feud alive, while touching on Susie Price 's damaged psyche and unstable behavior and Talia Areano being the squeaky clean babyface here since she's the one in line to face our champion after winning the #1 contender spot.


If any of you are looking for another feud, @❀ℋine 'ea❀ is looking for something to do with Morgan Davis as cited in this thread.



- The Frosts & Bobbi Jackson def. The Mega Busters

After the comical bout they had on our last episode, I wanted to do a rematch. Between getting ready for relatives to come down to visit this week and other things that got in the way, I wasn't able to collaborate with Alice's handler to write the ReAction and promos I wanted to do to tie into this match, but oh well. I knew where I was going with the result here so I knew I wanted the Mega Busters to lose when I booked this match. I'm going to spoil ReAction a bit and reveal that it was none other than the Enforcers who attacked the Mega Busters when the lights went out. I've cooled the jets on that feud long enough to let them get their defenses down long enough to get attacked here. BTW I'm loving this ongoing storyline with TheFrosts manipulating Bobbi behind the scenes. BTW Bobbi Jackson I hope you're feeling better. I know you were stressed out that you couldn't make the deadline but that's okay. Shit happens and this was no different.



- Cut Match/Segment #1 -- Sarah Richardson vs. Zora Graysen

Truth be told, Zora Graysen and I have a pending character development piece that we have been working to get together to work on for our characters (Mariah and Zora) to advance their storyline, but never got a chance to met with our schedules being hectic lately. She's on Canada time and I'm on EST USA time. I'm going to bed most of the time when she gets off work, so we just haven't be able to get to work on it. Hopefully the stars will align for we can get this done in preparation of the next show.

It was poor judgment on my part to book this match too since I haven't seen sarahrichardson online since before our last show. I know her handler has been getting swamped with personal matters IRL too. Either I can book this match again on the next show or go in a different direction - your choice, ladies.



- Cut Match/Segment #2 -- Collaboration between "The Iceman" Konrad Raab Samuel ❤Knightmare INC Patrick TheFrosts and Bobbi Jackson concerning the Tag Team Championship

After everyone involved having different complications and dilemmas IRL, I decided to just cut this segment out and save it for the next show. No worries in the least as I want to do 2 more episodes of Primetime anyway (preferably the 14th and 28th respectively for those of you who like to think ahead) before our next PPV in September that would setup another Tag Team Championship title match anyway. I think the extended time frame would benefit everyone on this collaboration too.


Speaking of collaborations, Desmond Masters (terrormaster) and The Grand Zabrina we haven't forgotten about you two as our newcomers.  Akasha (Samuel) is having internet issues but we'll get together to crank out that interview for ReAction and get you two booked on the next show. 




- Main Event: Vi Malkov (c) def. Beth Phoenix to retain the Queen of Queens Championship

Another fine main event for this Reinas title defense. Since these matches are usually between two "special guests" Vi. and in this case Miss Phoenix. , I wanted to give them their money's worth in terms of quality here. For those wondering, Beth did send in that interview for the GZWA blog page to hype up the match, but I think she wasn't aware of the RP deadline was this past Sunday.

Vi's handler knows I say this a lot via DMs on Twitter, but I thank you a lot for humbling this fed with your contribution to making this crazy experiment I have had with this title and it's rule set a reality. Speaking of which, I think I'm going to have to modify the rules slightly. Not all of the entries from Reina de Reinas Dos want to nor are available to do these "special guest" defenses, so I'm going to have to reduce the number of opponents that Vi has to defend against before she earns a Vixen title shot.


Last but not leasts, I have been advertising "open tryouts" on Twitter before Primetime in-character with Mary and Mariah acting as coaches/judges for these potential signings on the spot. If you know anyone who would like to join the fed or wants to check out what we do here, feel free to have them "participate" or "volunteer" to take part in those tryouts. Who knows, maybe we can get some fun out of those new recruits and fill up some the gaps on our roster. 

[❤Knightmare INC]

Oh,Pat was still in town where he worked Xion,he just was extra busy during last weekend hopefully that clears that part up lol,

I'm going to be 'killing' my characters of yes...but trust me that blowout will be on match 5( finale)

I do have CAWS as well I can switch too if needed I know all mine are real wrestlers ATM...(trust me on that I don't mind switching to original wrestlers)

But I was thinking about bringing in Tina's son(yep she had a child...more than one nowadays 😜) but I need to write off my characters to do that lol

[❤Rose❤]

I like the idea of Rex and Casey as a tagteam. Lol, together they are a reall force

[Patrick]

To add to what Mel said, it was a busy week. I had 9 hour days, you may not say that's an excuse.. but running a festival that over a thousand people attend sure is. Sometimes real life gets in the way. I had no time to role play since all I wanted to do is rest when I got home.

This week things go back to normal. I'm all for Mandy, Rex getting momentum and getting ahead. I'm alright with proving Justin still a threat this week. I'm still working what will happen next with Jayson.

[Xion Zeros]

That's fine Pat. I know the horrors of working 9+ hr days LOL

[Athena]

Hey there, everyone. Right off the bat, I am terribly sorry for my absence recently. Especially to Susie Price and Talia Areano , who had definitely been on a hot streak as of late. Real life has definitely been all over the place for me and I simply didn't have the energy, the time or the creative juices to write anything. And I felt so guilty this entire time for being an embarrassing champ and disappointing the entire Women's Division. Especially, after it took me around 8 years at both ZXWWF and GZWA to win a title.

I do feel that this division has so much going for it. And with all of these girls contributing each show, putting their best foot forward, they need a champion who would not only properly represent the female roster, but also could keep up with the challengers. That is not something I am able to do. Yet, to vacate the title once more would be a disservice to all. So, I consulted, discussed and brainstormed with Xion Zeros over this last week and we managed to come up with a plan which would give all of the girls involved in the title picture something to work with. Also, I will try my best to be as present as possible leading up to the PPV title defense. And even if you don't see me online, you can all be sure that Xion is always in the loop with that is happening in my life and he knows my characters and their future storylines just as well as I do.

Thank you all for your understanding, I am once again very sorry for being such a mediocre at best champion and hope that the division will keep striving going on forward. Cheers.

["The Iceman" Konrad Raab]

Thing is I don't even think I'm able to even do a segment this time around because of me moving on Monday. Sorry for my lack of effort last time and even this time as well. I don't have the commitment to doing feuds and it's nothing to do with Frosts or Bobbi. It's just down to moving house. I don't know what to do about the segment side of things because I just can't do one this week. It's impossible.

[Xion Zeros]

I'm going to chime in on these last two posts.

Aug 7, 2017 15:43:35 GMT -5 Athena said:

Hey there, everyone. Right off the bat, I am terribly sorry for my absence recently. Especially to Susie Price and Talia Areano , who had definitely been on a hot streak as of late. Real life has definitely been all over the place for me and I simply didn't have the energy, the time or the creative juices to write anything. And I felt so guilty this entire time for being an embarrassing champ and disappointing the entire Women's Division. Especially, after it took me around 8 years at both ZXWWF and GZWA to win a title.

I do feel that this division has so much going for it. And with all of these girls contributing each show, putting their best foot forward, they need a champion who would not only properly represent the female roster, but also could keep up with the challengers. That is not something I am able to do. Yet, to vacate the title once more would be a disservice to all. So, I consulted, discussed and brainstormed with Xion Zeros over this last week and we managed to come up with a plan which would give all of the girls involved in the title picture something to work with. Also, I will try my best to be as present as possible leading up to the PPV title defense. And even if you don't see me online, you can all be sure that Xion is always in the loop with that is happening in my life and he knows my characters and their future storylines just as well as I do.

Thank you all for your understanding, I am once again very sorry for being such a mediocre at best champion and hope that the division will keep striving going on forward. Cheers.

Athena is going to kill me for killing her "ice queen" gimmick around here, but she was really depressed about this title situation. She felt that she was letting all of you down with absence as of late after working so hard and so long to obtain this goal of being a champion for the first time. She knows that the last thing I would want to do is to have to vacate the title after so many of ladies - old and new - have come on board since Reina de Reinas Dos to make this revival of this division a reality.

I'll go on record of saying that it pisses me off royally to see some of our former talent/members talk down or put themselves on a higher platform in the history books of you women who are part of this division currently. I'm proud of every single one of you holding it down in the Vixen division - even Vi. too for someone who isn't even officially part of this efed. Athena didn't lose her "smile" and didn't end up elsewhere RPing to "find herself" - no, every time that she missed the deadlines she was thinking about how she was letting this division down as it's champion. The last thing she wanted to do was to flake out on anyone in a feud with her or to have the title rendered meaningless.

That's the true merit of a champion in my eyes - one who isn't thinking of merely of themselves but one who is thinking about how to elevate and benefit the division as a whole. I'm not knocking anyone who is here merely for the competitive aspect of winning championships, because we'd all be lying to ourselves if we weren't all in this for that aspect in some fashion, but we're in this together in terms of the storyline aspect. Sometimes shit happens IRL that are out of our control and we just have to deal with it. I don't expect any of you to be perfect because I'm damn sure far from it.

When our last Vixen Champion vacated the title and left the federation with a lot of our veteran women to boot (you can tell them I said that too as I'm not "shading" anyone), I won't lie - that hit our women's division pretty hard. I was told by some our peers on social media to just end this fed and call it quits. I took a shot in the dark, held Reinas last year as an experiment with new rules, and I was blessed in two-fold from that labor of love. Once by those of you veterans who stayed and saw this as a challenge to step up your game while newcomers came in to challenge you all further. Those same people who departed saw what we did with Reinas and what followed and still managed to keep our women's division on their lips with negativity. I don't see why when those in question were "burnt out" or needed a break when they could have been easily a part of it, but no. When I continue to see crap like that come out of people's mouths on social media, that makes me even prouder of what you in this division continue to do, especially those of you who continue to work even harder after a loss instead of taking your ball and going home or not even bothering to login at all.

This goes for the guys, along with the ladies. We may be small in numbers right now, but continue to put your hearts into everything that you do here. When shit hits the fan and/or life happens and you stumble, just remember you're never alone and your family here will pick you back up. Let me and your peers know what's going on. I'm socially awkward and introverted IRL. On top of all of that, I suffer from social anxiety disorder too, but I make sure to try to check in with you guys.

So to our current ladies on the roster Bobbi Jackson TheFrosts ❤Rose❤ ❤Knightmare INC @jennifer Laura Jackson Susie Price Talia Areano Athena ❀ℋine 'ea❀ Samuel The Grand Zabrina I thank you.

Aug 7, 2017 18:35:25 GMT -5 "The Iceman" Konrad Raab said:

Thing is I don't even think I'm able to even do a segment this time around because of me moving on Monday. Sorry for my lack of effort last time and even this time as well. I don't have the commitment to doing feuds and it's nothing to do with Frosts or Bobbi. It's just down to moving house. I don't know what to do about the segment side of things because I just can't do one this week. It's impossible.

"The Iceman" Konrad Raab Look I get it, you are focused on your move. Do that and don't worry about the segment collaboration. I don't want to stress you out anymore than you already are. We'll just do what I should have done on the past episode of Primetime and just go with what ❤Knightmare INC did solo. If you, Sam, TheFrosts, and Bobbi Jackson want to setup a feud after that for the next show then that's fine. You four have the show off unless you want to send in segments. Sound good?

[❤Rose❤]

Well, I might not be the most active person here, but if you should need someone more for the women's division, then u can take one of my chars. Maybe Rose would work, as she's only Amandas manager at the moment. But thats up to u.

[❤Knightmare INC]

I actually may have an idea to twist the ending for my best of series with a new diva...if you really need new faces for the division , I'm always happy to help out. Shake things up a bit, just a shame stuns isn't around anymore lol,she would love to be apart of the division again nowadays 😜