DISCUSSION -- Primetime 2-5-18 (SPOILERS)

[Xion Zeros]

Going to do something different for this post-show discussion thread since we have a few people "upset" about how the results turned out. I'm opening this thread before I post ReAction for IC reactions/comments. That way I can discuss the "method of my madness" so to speak before you pull out the pitchforks and torches.

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Overall, god this was a segment-heavy show. I can only blame myself for that as I was building and setting up stuff for AFTER Reina de Reinas Tres. The next episode of Primetime will be replaced with that event instead. Details and adjusted deadlines will be posted shortly for those competing in that event.


Segment #1 -- Rocketts/Xion/Enforcers

Merely setting the stage for Rocketts' pending "death" at the hands of the Bradleys later in the show as the sacrificial lambs.


Segment #2 -- Susie Price returns on her throne

Susie Price told me well in advance that she's been under the weather for the last few weeks, so I've kept her off the cards for the most part. Regardless, she wanted to contribute to this show as we're honestly planning something for Reinas with Vi but haven't been able to line our schedules up properly to set that up yet.


Casey Cortez def. Laura Jackson

I wanted a hard-hitting affair, much like their match during Reinas last year, to hit home that they want nothing to do with each other anymore. Laura Jackson could take just as much as Casey (❤Rose❤ ) could dish out, but ultimately reached her breaking point at the end.


The Doombringer def. Carnage

My main objective for this match was merely stirring the pot and making people wonder on who's side is Doombringer really on. Is he willing to fight for or with the Machine? That's going to be the question that is going to be asked over the course of the next few weeks.


The Bradley Clan def. Rockett Security Inc.

This was literally a squash. No if's, and's, or but's. The Bradley Clan brought this idea to me last week and I was fine with this part of it.


Segment #3

Oh yes... Here's what I'm sure with what just about everyone who read the results thought they were in trouble for.

First off there's a typo in the following statement:

The Television Championship is a SINGLES championship - in no shape or form that this is defended in co-champion format. The fact that the title has not been defended in a one-on-one basis since crowning the champion during the TV Title Special is that Equinox was still competing in that tournament

The correction is in bold. So to clarify, KingOfHighSpots has defended the title during the course of the tournament due to the ruling in effect since winning the revived title. He wasn't pinned nor forced to submit so the defenses stand. That typo is corrected in the original post/thread now.

For months on end, I've seen people mention in promos that Xion doesn't listen or does give opportunities, so I wanted to do my in-character version of "Corporate" Triple H's "If we don't get our way, Me and my friend Mark are going to quit watching!" as a response to the IC complaints and grievances on the roster. Xion's got a wedding coming up, trouble at home with his family, yada yada etc. Of course the man is going to be a bit high strung. On top of that, it was a lot of fact checking/clarifications as I've noticed a few people are getting details wrong in their promos. I can't speak for anyone else, but to see someone clearly not read the entirety of the show and not get the facts right after I painstakingly take my time to write the results makes me feel bad and wonder if I'm wasting my time with the effort. Don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking ANY of you - we have a wealth of talented writers and creative minds from the top and bottom of the roster.


Senor Vinnie & Amanda Cortez def. Justin Lockhart & The Grand Zabrina

Call me crazy but I see this odd pairing of senorvinnie and Amanda like Goldust and Luna Vachon/Marlena from back in the Attitude Era. Their stuff makes you feel uncomfortable but IMO wrestling needs stuff like this - i.e. Velveteen Dream currently on NXT. The Grand Zabrina took the pin here and lost her "undefeated" streak, but Lockhart (Patrick ) didn't lose his momentum. I dunno if you four are continuing this feud or not though. Gotta admit I was amused at how you two where egging on the match to the anticipation of Zabby getting spanked. My only gripe on writing this match is that I didn't make that moment more special and built to that.


The Enforcers & Vanessa def. The Mega Busters

In retrospect, it would have made sense for the Bradleys or Carnage to show up to attack here, but given the relationship between those parties, I doubt they would've cared to help the Mega Busters in any shape or form, so it was better to keep this as a one and done affair.


Chance Justice def. Ryan Kendrick and Jayson Heagerty

senorvinnie wrote this one so I give him all of the props on this match for carrying out the unlikely alliance between Chance (❤Knightmare INC ) and Jayson (Patrick ) from their segment that aired prior to the start of this.


Crystal Hilton vs. Zora Graysen ends in a draw

Zora Graysen 's first match back and Crystal's (sarahrichardson ) first singles match in a while, so I wanted to make this end with a twist. I know that I do the double count out spot a lot, but haven't had it actually end a match in a while. With both ladies entering Reinas, I thought it would've been cool to end it on if they happened to meet up in the tournament at some point or renew/continue the rivalry after the tournament. (Shrugs) I dunno I just like giving you guys options to work with.


Segment #4

SinCityDollz cooked up this segment to continue the storyline of Xion and Brooklyn's daughter having issues with the couple's pending marriage and baby on the way. I'm merely on for the ride and anxious to see where this goes. Yes, Xion has a sister (two actually but I'm trying to keep them out of wrestling for the time being in the sake of this story). I'm just merely trying to flesh out his family outside of the wrestling world and adding a bit of reality to what Xion and his soon-to-be wife are dealing with away from work.


Talia Areano def. Lily Evol

In retrospect, I should have mentioned this in the results by commentary that Brooklyn wasn't in attendance tonight. I think the story still got across that the lack of her mentor had an effect on Lily's performance, allowing Talia Areano the upper hand. A pretty straight forward match and a well-deserved win for Talia going into Reinas looking strong.


Main Event: GZWA Tag Team Champions Bobbi Jackson and Dominique Frost def. Television Champion Equinox and Konrad Raab

Like commentary said at the start, I wrote this as a battle of the sexes of a sort. That was the impression I thought that Raab and Equinox were going for in their promos by undermining the tag champions' achievements up to this point and didn't respect women (namely Bobbi Jackson and TheFrosts ) in the least as capable challengers of their skills in this finale. So I wrote this match with the narrative being that the ladies were attempting to prove themselves in their eyes - hoping to earn their respect. I made sure that the boys got in more than enough hard-hitting offense while the ladies got in some too and making sure this wasn't one-sided in the least.

Equinox didn't get pinned (retaining the TV title in the process as he was thrown out of the ring during the finish), "The Iceman" Konrad Raab did in the end result. And even then, it could have went either way in my eyes.

In future reference, if any of you have an issue with the results bring it up to ME personally via PM. Not on social media/personal Twitter.

[senorvinnie]

I don't have any issues, i did contact you cuz i saw something in your post of people demanding title shots. And Vinnie is so weird thinking that he is just making assumptions that he hasn't lost in 2 years (lol the end of 2017 and start of 2018, but i love the angle of it all) that he deserves a world title shot. so that's why i asked, the rest i knew it wasn't so much about me.

I love your remark upon me and Mandy be like Goldust/Luna or Goldy and Marlena. i think me and her are more like goldy and marlena or even the current Goldy and Rose. And I don't mind to get in a storyline with anyone altho me and Mandy still feel that the Vinnie and Casey thing hasn't finished yet. we feel we want that one on one confrontation as Vinnie and Casey do challenge each other there and mention it on reaction threads.

but yeah, if me and Mandy would be in a storyline with some people as perhaps Zabby and stuff i think we could build a nice angle. especialy i know that mrs Cortez will be drooling over the prospect lol.

i didnt do a seg this show cuz i wasn't feeling very good was sick a week long. but i'm glad i still did that match i wrote

[❤Rose❤]

Well, first I don’t see any reason why anybody should be upset. I think that it was a good show and I enjoyed the reading.

Then I must say that the segment of the boss was cool where he said some positive things about my Amanda char (lol, prolly the only one). Some ppl might like to see the old mean Amanda back, but I think that her current angle fits better. I mean that playing the tough and strong one doesn’t make much sense when the char mostly loses. `this way it’s a bit hard to rp. But the way she is at the moment (Funny, freaky and a bit mean) fits pretty good and this way it’s easy to write something. Lol, and I think that the teaming up with Rose and Vinnie is pretty awesome. It must not all be so serious.

And as we talk about serious. The Casey & Laura match was really cool. Casey is the char with whom I try to go for a title and that’s the reason why she is just a fighting machine and that came good again at this show. Ok, she’s a human being too. That was the reason why she was a bit frustrated in the last rp and why I let her love her dog. Lol.
Well, but she’s my more serious character while Amanda and Rose are more here for fun or if anybody needs a storyline or a feud. So if everybody wants it, we can continue the feud with Zabby, Justin and Vinnie. Lol, it’s fun.

[The Grand Zabrina]

Feb 12, 2018 15:32:29 GMT -5 Xion Zeros said:

Senor Vinnie & Amanda Cortez def. Justin Lockhart & The Grand Zabrina

Call me crazy but I see this odd pairing of senorvinnie and Amanda like Goldust and Luna Vachon/Marlena from back in the Attitude Era. Their stuff makes you feel uncomfortable but IMO wrestling needs stuff like this - i.e. Velveteen Dream currently on NXT. The Grand Zabrina took the pin here and lost her "undefeated" streak, but Lockhart (Patrick ) didn't lose his momentum. I dunno if you four are continuing this feud or not though. Gotta admit I was amused at how you two where egging on the match to the anticipation of Zabby getting spanked. My only gripe on writing this match is that I didn't make that moment more special and built to that.

Well I personally like the pairing as well. The whole big giant and little lass combo entertains me for some reason, lol. As for the fall, wins and loses don't mean shit to me. All I care about are stories and having fun. If anything I've written for Zabby to fight almost like a jobber, so taking the fall makes sense for her.

As for the "gripe", don't worry about it mate. I enjoyed the show from top to bottom (phasing done on purpose, lol) and never know, you may get a second chance since I'm more than interested in continuing the feud/storyline with Mandy, Vinnie and Locky is the three of you like. :3

[Patrick]

Yeah you known man sometimes it just happens in feds where people think they should get things. I used to have this fed where there was a guy who signed up as JBL. He basically wanted the GM (who was Jayson's dad Pat) come to the ring raise his hand and declare him number one contender. Easily to say, he didn't last a week. I known Jayson Heagerty can be like that, but in his mind he thinks that way. It's all part of his character. I said it before but he is like The Miz. He likes to push buttons unto you just want to sock him in the face.

Now to the matches.

I had fun working with Zabby and since I'm not really sure what you have planned for Justin or even if there is one, I'm more than glad to work with Zabby ageist Vinnie and Mandy. I known Mandy probably is like again working with me every week lol. But if we can build to where Justin and Mandy really hate one another to the point they want blood every time they are out there, ok. Vinnie your gimmick is great man, reminds me somewhat like when Santino was doing his whole IC reign and counting the weeks he held the belt. Keep it up.

I think me and Mel will be doing more with Jayson and Chance in the coming weeks. So stay tunned.