Wrestlemania XVII Discussions and Spoilers

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Here's a thread about biggest wrestling event of the year.
My thoughts are that Rock (apart from being host) will have a match at WM. Also it is said that at WM hhh will try to break the streak and HBK to be sp. referee.. but i don't think that would happen because as hbk being sp. ref it would be 80 % for HHH... Besides Triple H there are rumors of Sting appearing at WM... Who knows ?
Just hope WWE doesn't fuck up with this.
And yeah official WrestleMania theme is ''Written in the stars''

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And yeah soz for ''Discussions'' I was typing fast

[Squall Leonhart]

Sting?Naw,Man,The Guys Been Avoiding Signing With WWE For The Good Part Of A Decade,What"s Changed That Would Make Him Wanna Come Work For Vince?

[Alkertraz]

The Rock hosting Wrestlemania (his intro and promo) is the best thing to happen to wrestling in years... He will wrestle and i reckon if any one it will be Cena cause they are the two top gimmicks in wrestling and at the end of the day its a business and at some point they will have a mic off and it will be awesome but The Rock will show Cena exactly how its done...

You referring to Undertakers streak?!... That's never gonna be broken and I don't know why each year people think it might possible happen even when it comes close in every match... That's Undertakers thing that no one else will ever touch it's his living tribute for being with WWE over 20 years and constantly being a top superstar...

And to be honest sting can do one, hes past it, old, saggy, looks and wrestles out of shape and clumsy... yeah he deserves a good send off for his contribution to wrestling and deserves to be in hall of fame... He was one my favs as a kid but he's lost his edge...

[Squall Leonhart]

I Admit,Sting Is Past His Prime,It Sad,But True.He Admits That He Needs People Who Are Able To Carry Him Through Matches,So,Yeah,I Think He Should Hang It Up.And He Should Be In A Hall Of Fame,Not Nessicarily WWE's,But,He Shoud Be In a Hall Of Fame None The Less.

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Rock will be there. That's all I care about lol

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Cena vs. Miz at wrestlemania ?? WTF ?? Hope not, but if that happens i will not watch that match 100%

[Xion Zeros]

***WARNING: Elimination Chamber 2011 SPOILERS BELOW***




The second John Morrison got eliminated during the RAW EC match I turned the feed off as I knew Jesus was going to win. Like I told one of my RL buds last week, my guess for WM is Miz vs. Cena with The Rock as the Special Guest Referee. That way he gets to take out both of them afterwards just like Stone Cold did after Lesnar/Goldberg.

JoMo, Sheamus, and R-Truth prolly are going to form some ragtag team to take on New Nexus while Big Show, Rey Mysterio, Kane and Drew McIntyre do the same to take on The Corre.

Wasn't surprised in the least about Christian coming back, as he was set to be back since RR but too many sites spoiled that so WWE changed plans. So it wouldn't be too surprising to see Edge vs. Christian vs. Alberto Del Rio in a Triple Threat.

Let's see then after Trish Stratus' cameo last night, I'll bank on LayCool and Vickie Guerrero vs. Kelly Kelly and Trish Stratus, plus some random babyface Diva at WM as well.

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Who's JoMo?

[Xion Zeros]

JoMo = John Morrison

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Trish cameo??? Trish WHO??? Stratus???

*heads to Youtube*

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OMG....Chick Kick, DOUBLE Stratusfaction, Air Canada, Stratusphere....All in 5-6 inch boots???! ONLY Trish can possibly make that work & she did!!! Running around like she was in flats.



I SOOOOO want "The-Trish" to come back full time now! I smell her being on Tough Enough is just a cover for a lengthy s/l. Maybe an 8th title reign perhaps?

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This was a rare time that ZX and I agreed about Trish. Her promo was horrible and insulting and her coming to the rescue of K2 is setting up some lame Wrestlemania match between her and LayCool or her with K2 vs. LayCool with Vickie. Either way, it will be a Trish love-fest and painful to watch.

[Xion Zeros]

Don't get me wrong. I like LOOKING at Trish as much as the next guy, but as for her in a wrestling ring, no thanks. I think WWE has had enough stains on women's wrestling for the past few years.

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I'm sorry. I still think Lita and Victoria were way better than Trish will ever be. I think only because I base Vespertine off of Lita in some ways. And Victoria. OMG! Who doesn't love a crazy psychotic woman like her. I have had a crush on her for years. I remember when she debuted and when she left. And before her wrestling debut I remember when she was a Ho for the Godfather and his Ho Train.

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Feb 22, 2011 20:16:26 GMT -5 Xion Zeros said:

Don't get me wrong. I like LOOKING at Trish as much as the next guy, but as for her in a wrestling ring, no thanks. I think WWE has had enough stains on women's wrestling for the past few years.

Awwe cmon. She's not that bad. Besides, I har Lacey Von Erich is looking for work these days....

I can't even stand looking at her anymore. Too used to her as a blonde. Besides, that is a gawdawful shade of brown /puke

[Squall Leonhart]

Trish Is Back?Thats Cool,Although WWE Probally Gonna Fuck This Up To.

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So here is the final lineup for matches at this years Wrestlemania:

Edge vs. Alberto Del Rio for World heavyweight Title

John Cena vs. The Miz for WWE Title

Undertaker vs. Triple H in a No Holds Barred Match

Randy Orton vs. CM Punk

Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole

Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes

John Morrison, Trish Stratus, Snooki vs. Dolph Ziggler and Laycool

Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan

Eight Man tag Team Match
Big Show, Santino Marella, Kane and Vladimir Kozlof
Vs.
Wade Barrett, Ezekiel Jackson, Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel


My predictions:
- Edge will overcome but will be attacked somewhere by Vicki and her gang

- John Cena will win because hey it's John Cena (and a big draw) and last time these two met, Miz couldn't stand toe to toe with him. Maybe that will change this time, who knows tho...

- Taker though Triple will come close. No one touches Taker's win streak.

- I want Orton to win but I think Punk will get it because Punk has the ability to pull stuff out of his sleeves.

- Lawler because he has the more experience

- I want Dolph and Lay Cool to win but I think John's team will get it because Snookie is a big draw and so is Trish.

- Misterio but should be a close match

- Sheamus. As good as Bryan is, Sheamus is way more vicious than Bryan and outweighs him by a lot.

- Show, Kane, Santino and Vladimir


Anyway, what do you all think?

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Ok: more thoughts. You know how they have some matches that are really bad you just can tell by the names in the match that you have to ask what Vince was thinking when he slated it. For example: Bret Hart vs. Vince McMahon last year.

Big fails for this year:
- Jerry lawler vs. Michael Cole

- John, Trish and Snooki vs. Dolph and Laycool. Come on, Snooki doesn't belong in the ring. She can't even wrestle. But WWE is going to push her AND a retired Trish Stratus and make the real wrestlers like Dolph and MIchelle fail.

[Alkertraz]

Predictions -

Edge vs. Alberto Del Rio for World heavyweight Title -

I'm gonna say Edge even though it's probably gonna be del rio cause i think del rio is a shocking character and as bad a wrestler new age JBL and i even despise him.

John Cena vs. The Miz for WWE Title -

Gotta be the Miz you don't have a Rock Cena build up like that for Cena to not then loose by his hand or on the flip side they end up siding which would be suck!...

Undertaker vs. Triple H in a No Holds Barred Match -

With complete conviction Undertaker just no question about it i think it be a great match as well...

Randy Orton vs. CM Punk -

Randy Orton with a good story told throughout the match.

Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole -

Obvious one Jerry Lawler, no one Michael cole will out wrestle a legend like JL...

Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes -

Cody Rhodes due to Mysterio in the past few years losing his edge, he's come of the pace with high flying and that and is starting to feel his age where as Rhodes is up and coming and is gotta be due to a push soon (not world title push).

John Morrison, Trish Stratus, Snooki vs. Dolph Ziggler and Laycool -

I think John Morrison and Ziggler are two of the best gifted wrestlers in WWE today and that this is gonna be one of the matches of the night gonna go with Morrison.

Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan -

Daniel Byan due not only he being a good wrestler as well as highly passionate i think WWE are gonna get rid of Sheamus they have been humiliating him alot lately and he's fallen off the radar...

Eight Man tag Team Match
Big Show, Santino Marella, Kane and Vladimir Kozlof
Vs.
Wade Barrett, Ezekiel Jackson, Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel -

Not gonna call this one i can see one of the teams falling apart and turning on each other leaving it easy for the opposite side to pick up the win.

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[shadow=black,left,300]My Predictions[/shadow]

[shadow=black,left,300]Edge vs. Alberto Del Rio for World Heavyweight Title[/shadow]

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Alberto del Rio all the way. This sets up a title feud between him and Christian or the rumored feud between Edge and Christian.

[shadow=black,left,300]John Cena vs. The Miz for WWE Title[/shadow]

Miz. I have a feeling that this little thing between rock and Cena is designed to give much heat to a Cena heel turn.

[shadow=black,left,300]Undertaker vs. Triple H in a No Holds Barred Match[/shadow]

Undertaker. I'm predicting run-ins from HBK and possily Diesel. I hope they don't go this route and cheapen what is arguably the most interesting match on the card.

[shadow=black,left,300]Randy Orton vs. CM Punk[/shadow]

I'm gonna play devil's advocate here and go Punk. I don't think this storyline is done yet......

[shadow=black,left,300]Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole[/shadow]

Lawler. I still say it should be Lawler/Miz, but what are ya gonna do....

[shadow=black,left,300]Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes[/shadow]

Who cares? Really? A masked man with a mask you can see right through anyway? Give me a break.

If I have to pick, I'll say Rey's gonna put over Rhodes, even though he's not ready.

[shadow=black,left,300]John Morrison, Trish Stratus, Snooki vs. Dolph Ziggler and Laycool[/shadow]

This might surprise a lot of people, but who cares? I'm glad to be able to see Trish again, but this Grade-School "Beautiful People" has got to go. Wrestlemania isn't the place for this type of match.

[shadow=black,left,300]Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan[/shadow]

Sheamus. Simply because this storyline is a small bit of clear in what has been a clusterfuck of 2 careers over the last few months.

[shadow=black,left,300]Big Show, Santino Marella, Kane and Vladimir Kozlof
Vs.
Wade Barrett, Ezekiel Jackson, Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel[/shadow]

Who cares? This will either end with Santino getting bootfucked (because they can't job out one of the big guys without having us riot) or Santino's team imploding. Either way, Corre looks strong and the fans hit the beer tent.

Granted, the build-up for this Wrestlemania has been better than many ppv's in recent memory, but the only titles being defended are the WWE, World, and "The Streak"? Give me a fucking break! I'm not gonna hop on the bandwagon about Snooki though. She can't act to save her life, but she does seem to be legitimately tough, so I am kind of interested to see how she does.

Speaking of the build-up, the matches we are all looking forward to were well built. The ones we don't care about had half-assed, couple of week build. For shame, WWE.

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Edge vs. Alberto Del Rio for World Heavyweight Title

Edge wins, retains title, Christian comes out with the attack declaring he's coming for the title ultimately leaving Del Rio out of the loop

OR

Christian interferes causing Edge to lose starting their long awaited feud. Del Rio wins the title but still leaves him with no one to feud with. I really don't see Rio with the title anytime soon though >_>


John Cena vs. The Miz for WWE Title

Miz FTW. I luv John, but I really couldn't take another reign of Super-Cena *rolls eyes* The kids will just have to deal.

I still think this will most likely turn into a Triple Threat match with Rock thrown in. Hopefully Rock stays for a while in a lengthy feud with Cena &/or Miz.

It'd be a trip if Cena & Miz teamed together against Rock then somehow it turns into Rock/Austin v Cena/Miz. I'm reaching WAAAAAY too far I know.....


Undertaker vs. Triple H in a No Holds Barred Match

*sigh* I really do have luv for Trips, but if there is a chance that he does win I will be PISSED as ALL hell! -_-

That being said, Taker. WWE would be a fool to let this streak end.


Randy Orton vs. CM Punk

Hmm, I'll say Punk. I don't see this ending here.


Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole

Lawler. Cole's gonna try to cheat a victory but it'll backfire.


Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes

In all honesty, I really didn't know these two had a match OR what's been going on with them lately. I'll say Rey-Rey since he's the OTHER Superman in the company >_>


John Morrison, Trish Stratus, Snooki vs. Dolph Ziggler and Laycool

Queen Stratus returns!!!!!! And it wasn't just a cameo, an actual rivalry that can turn out to be more after WM, ONLY between Trish & McRibs though. I can see them carrying a legit feud for a month or two. No Layla or Vickie. Just Michelle & the Queen. Speaking of, I can't WAIT to see what attire she dons tonight. Of course it'll have to compliment the Brunette locks

Oh, but the match. Snooki better NOT mess this up. Matter of fact just keep that heffa on the apron to cheer Trish & Morrison on. I KNOW Dolph & John will put on a great show as will Trish & Michelle/Layla. Vickie better stay ghost too.

Can't wait for Stratusfaction Or maybe a Chick Kick. Either one will be alright with me ^_^


Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan

Sheamus. Since he's broken the "curse" I don't see him losing this.


Big Show, Santino Marella, Kane and Vladimir Kozlof Vs. Wade Barrett, Ezekiel Jackson, Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel

They want Corre to looks strong so they won't lose. This could wind up being a good thing for Kane & Big Show if the right cards are played. He just better not do that trumpet taunt again >_>

[Xion Zeros]

I'll make this quick...

Edge vs. Alberto Del Rio for World heavyweight Title

I'm banking on Christian costing Edge the title and they feud all summer. Del Rio's time to shine honestly, just like JBL did in the same position.

John Cena vs. The Miz for WWE Title

Miz without a doubt. Cena's so sidetracked with The Rock that he's totally forgotten about Miz and even a retard can see that they are going to bank on Cena vs. Rock in the following months. Wouldn't make much sense to book that if Cena's champ.

Undertaker vs. Triple H in a No Holds Barred Match

I see HHH is about to win then HBK comes out and Super Kicks HHH to cost him the match to go off some idea that if he couldn't do it he doesn't want anyone else to do it. Then next year it's a triple threat of HHH, HBK, and Taker for Taker's last match.

Randy Orton vs. CM Punk

CM Punk prolly has another new recruit for New Nexus that didn't get banned and he still wins with some sneaky trick in the book. This just seems like another feud they are going to milk all summer.

Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole

King wins. 'Nuff said.

Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes

Rumors are floating around that Rey is set to retire soon so I see Cody getting this win underneath his belt. Rey's prolly gonna carry him through the entire match though.

John Morrison, Trish Stratus, Snooki vs. Dolph Ziggler and Laycool

I honestly don't care for anyone in this match save for JoMo and Ziggler (especially how he gave Edge a run for his money a few months back), but in all honesty, it sickens me to see WWE show how much faith they have in the current crop of WWE Divas that they bring a reality star and the most overrated Diva in history back to take on the "PG-13 version" of the Beautiful People. JoMo and Ziggler deserve to be in a higher quality match than that.

Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan

This will more likely be the PPV opener, but I don't see Danielson getting a WM win this early in his career. This match was prolly just to get the crowd pumped like they usually do with the opening WM match since there's no MITB this year.

Eight Man tag Team Match
Big Show, Santino Marella, Kane and Vladimir Kozlof
Vs.
Wade Barrett, Ezekiel Jackson, Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel

Giants squash everyone but Santino manages to lose the match anyway. So damn sick of seeing Kane and Big Show treated like this...

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Ok so at the end of the John Cena vs. Miz match my live stream crashed and I couldn't get back in. It's cool, I can wait a couple of months for the DVD to come out. The only match I really wanted to see anyway was Taker vs. Triple H and I'm happy that I got to see him one more time. Probably for the last time according to you all. So would someone be so kind as to tell the results after the Cena/Miz match when you get the chance.
Thanks all

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[shadow=black,left,300]My Predictions[/shadow]

[shadow=black,left,300]Edge vs. Alberto Del Rio for World Heavyweight Title[/shadow]

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Alberto del Rio all the way. This sets up a title feud between him and Christian or the rumored feud between Edge and Christian.

Actual Result: Edge retains with a possible hint at a E&C/Del Rio & fatass feud

[shadow=black,left,300]John Cena vs. The Miz for WWE Title[/shadow]

Miz. I have a feeling that this little thing between Rock and Cena is designed to give much heat to a Cena heel turn.

Actual Result: Double count out. Rock comes out and restarts the match and Rock Bottom's Cena. Miz retains. Rock beats the crap out of Miz.

[shadow=black,left,300]Undertaker vs. Triple H in a No Holds Barred Match[/shadow]

Undertaker. I'm predicting run-ins from HBK and possily Diesel. I hope they don't go this route and cheapen what is arguably the most interesting match on the card.

Actual Result: Undertaker via Hell's Gate. Then after 5 mins, they stretcher Taker out of the arena.......

[shadow=black,left,300]Randy Orton vs. CM Punk[/shadow]

I'm gonna play devil's advocate here and go Punk. I don't think this storyline is done yet......

Actual Result: Orton

[shadow=black,left,300]Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole[/shadow]

Lawler. I still say it should be Lawler/Miz, but what are ya gonna do....

Actual Result: Lawler wins but the "Anonymous GM" disualifies him due to interference from Austin. Cole wins. God help us all.

[shadow=black,left,300]Rey Mysterio vs. Cody Rhodes[/shadow]

Who cares? Really? A masked man with a mask you can see right through anyway? Give me a break.

If I have to pick, I'll say Rey's gonna put over Rhodes, even though he's not ready.

Actual Result: Rhodes wins via knee brace to the face behind ref's back.

[shadow=black,left,300]John Morrison, Trish Stratus, Snooki vs. Dolph Ziggler and Laycool[/shadow]

This might surprise a lot of people, but who cares? I'm glad to be able to see Trish again, but this Grade-School "Beautiful People" has got to go. Wrestlemania isn't the place for this type of match.

Actual Result: Snooki pins McCool. 'nuff said.

[shadow=black,left,300]Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan[/shadow]

Sheamus. Simply because this storyline is a small bit of clear in what has been a clusterfuck of 2 careers over the last few months.

Actual Result: This match was turned into a dark match battle royal. Khali wins.

[shadow=black,left,300]Big Show, Santino Marella, Kane and Vladimir Kozlof
Vs.
Wade Barrett, Ezekiel Jackson, Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel[/shadow]

Who cares? This will either end with Santino getting bootfucked (because they can't job out one of the big guys without having us riot) or Santino's team imploding. Either way, Corre looks strong and the fans hit the beer tent.

Actual Result: Kofi Kingston replaces an injured Kozlov and Santino Cobra's his way to a win.

Granted, the build-up for this Wrestlemania has been better than many ppv's in recent memory, but the only titles being defended are the WWE, World, and "The Streak"? Give me a fucking break! I'm not gonna hop on the bandwagon about Snooki though. She can't act to save her life, but she does seem to be legitimately tough, so I am kind of interested to see how she does.

Speaking of the build-up, the matches we are all looking forward to were well built. The ones we don't care about had half-assed, couple of week build. For shame, WWE.

[Alkertraz]

7 outta the 9 i predicted right only two i didn't get was one i didn't call Nexus Vs WWE cause it sucked and the other was the JL Vs MC which i said JL would win which imma say due to Austin calling it that he did, that he did!... Then there was the Sheamus match that didn't happen but he lost in dark match... so i'll take 100% across the board on predictions, thank you please!... ;p

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We should do this kinda pool/prediction thing for this federation. Write ups like this and see how many of us actually successfully predicted who wins or not. Did that once in another federation somewhere and the winner of the most predicted outcomes for matches at the end of the year got a free GFX for their character. IDK, just a thought.