"The Bandwagon" Discussion

[Xion Zeros]

I've seen this topic brought up on several forums, especially Caws.ws after the sudden boom of CM Punk "dickriders" and I was wondering what you guys think. Discuss.

My thoughts: I respect CM Punk, but I won't lie to myself that I've been a fan even though I've been watching the indies since 2004 with him popping up in several of the promotions I followed. I respect the dude, yes, but I'm not going to go OMFG at stuff he's been doing for YEARS prior to being in WWE.

My problem with whole "bandwagon" thing doesn't just come down to just CM Punk. It just annoys me that the average wrestling fan nowadays just goes with whatever is "cool" by WWE standards. What happened to the days when fans had individuality? You had people who stood by jobbers and mid-carders no matter what, but nowadays you RARELY see any of that. Instead, the average fan allows mainstream wrestling to spoon feed you who you're supposed to like in the sport. It's like voicing your opinion on ANY internet forum, people act like it's a crime to have an opinion outside of the common majority and get flamed for it. In fear of being different and being flamed for it, they just stick to what everyone else thinks is cool.

It's like that one episode of Family Guy where Peter was on Congress and said "Anyone who doesn't go to war is gay!" And like everyone immediately jumps on the war bandwagon, "I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO WANT TO GO TO WAR!"

Something to think about.

[Andre Holmes]

The thing is with the "Nowadays" fans is that they focus on Quantity > Quality. In other words, the wrestlers with the most FUCKING money and fame gets to crown themselves as "Mr.Wrestling". I think its a bunch of bullshit how they can do that and noone can't do shit about it! The WWE would be more entertaining if they focused more on the wrestler and the storylines as an equal set but thinks to the mind-fucked up kids sticking their nose in their business, when someone sees blood, a KID CRIES. When someone gets their neck by a Package Piledriver, kids goes like "MOMMY, HE SCARY!". Fucking mindless kids ruining the WWE with their softness.

I don't care if people say they don't know any better because I discovered indy wrestling BEFORE the WWE and I say that it was the most MAGICAL piece of shit I ever seen in my whole entire life! After that, I thought the WWE would be just like that but when I saw it

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The fans of today are poisined by the illusion of all this fame. WHERE THE FUCK DID THE PASSION FOR WRESTLING GO? UP VINCE'S ASS?

FUCK THE BULLSHIT WRESTLING OF MAINSTREAMS AND BRING BACK WHAT REAL PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING IS.

[Alkertraz]

To be fair you can't fault that storyline and idea one little bit. It worked to perfection, it got every one interested, talking about it, wanting to know what was gonna happen i bet they got more views more sells old school viewers interested, other brands talking about it... And, it's the only storyline i have ever believed (Punk's contract expiring and him going elsewhere) so you gotta hand it to creation and Vince and Punk for playing his part perfectly. WWE was lacking top stars and names that you instantly associate with its brand and within a few months it's created a brand within a brand in the form of Punk you can't take that way from anyone...

whether you hate WWE or not, whether you jumped on the Punk band wagon or not (not that you couldn't respect his in ring ability anyway) no matter how you look at it, it was a fucking master plan... i take my hat off to them...

[Justice]

It's not the storyline we hate. We hate the fact that we live in an era where a storyline like that makes money.

It's like Vince himself says. It's WW E. The day Vincent Kennedy McMahon Junior admitted to the world that wrestling is "fake" was the first bullet in the industry.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not some old fuddy duddy that thinks that it should still be the same as when Lou Thesz and Harley Race and Stu Hart were wreaking havok, BUT at the same time, you CANNOT have a viable WRESTLING product that is rated PG. The Japanese get it, the Mexicans get it, the British get it, the Greeks definitely get it. Hell, even the Jarretts used to get it. WTF is Vince's prob?